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you see this regarding eric cantor, who is giving a much-hyped speech regarding the deficit and towards a broader and more inclusive role they can play. he says mr. cantor can apply the existing gop policies. so that, i think at this point in time is a great question for the republican party at least right now. can their response to the 2012 election be to just change the tenor and temperature of their approach to politics rather than the actually policies. can they just stop primarying guys like dick luger without changing the approach to say, inequality. that is the message, changing your hope is different than changing your policies. it is great to have you both here, thank you for joining us. >> great to be here. >> molly, so can they? do they need to do more, need to sort of go back and look at policies or can you actually get pretty far just by changing the way your party acts in public? >> i think the answer is yes. they have to do both. and first of all the republicans find themselves in a situation that the democrats found themselves in maybe a decade ago, where they are on the
you see this regarding eric cantor, who is giving a much-hyped speech regarding the deficit and towards a broader and more inclusive role they can play. he says mr. cantor can apply the existing gop policies. so that, i think at this point in time is a great question for the republican party at least right now. can their response to the 2012 election be to just change the tenor and temperature of their approach to politics rather than the actually policies. can they just stop primarying guys...
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we would replace that sequester with deficit reduction achieved over a longer time. >> you, in suburban maryland, represent a lot of people that would be directly affected if the sequester hits. do you think the administration is doing a good job of preparing federal workers and folks whose paychecks depend on what happens in the next few weeks for how it will work and how to plan their lives? >> we have been urging them to provide guidance to federal employees because as we get closer to the date there is more and more anxiety, understandably. they are trying to provide notice to employees about things that can be expected, but the problem is it affect each agency differently, so there is not one rule of thumb that will apply to every federal agency. part of the impact will depend on the extent to which employees make up most of the budget, as opposed to agencies that have more of a procurement budget or their budget is contracted out. i should emphasize that while it will hit federal employees and that is not good for anyone, that will hurt -- it will hurt around the country. let's ta
we would replace that sequester with deficit reduction achieved over a longer time. >> you, in suburban maryland, represent a lot of people that would be directly affected if the sequester hits. do you think the administration is doing a good job of preparing federal workers and folks whose paychecks depend on what happens in the next few weeks for how it will work and how to plan their lives? >> we have been urging them to provide guidance to federal employees because as we get...
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if we cut the deficit we see a major bump 10 years, down the road. look at that even though the economy will take a hit in the short term. when it comes to the deficit, shouldn't we focus on the long game here i'm wondering? here with more is former director of the congressional budget office, douglas holtz-eakin. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. melissa: i was so excited the cbo finally went out and quantified this and tried to illustrate it to people. anytime you try to make the case we should cut spending short term to help our children down the road or ourselves depending how long you are, people poo-poo that is not like real math s that real math we saw on the bar charts? >> that is real math and the second example of that real math is what the cbo put out which says, suppose you do nothing? well, then we have a fault turf bad growth. their long-term growth rate for the u.s. has been marked down from 2 1/2% a year ago to 2.2%. and that's testimony to a staggering debt burden this economy is bearing. whether you look at it as the bad
if we cut the deficit we see a major bump 10 years, down the road. look at that even though the economy will take a hit in the short term. when it comes to the deficit, shouldn't we focus on the long game here i'm wondering? here with more is former director of the congressional budget office, douglas holtz-eakin. thanks so much for joining us. >> thank you. melissa: i was so excited the cbo finally went out and quantified this and tried to illustrate it to people. anytime you try to make...
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for instance, deficits are decreasing. however, all i ever hear from republicans is the president needs to get serious. from speaker john boehner. that's the best impersonation i can give you. >> it's not bad. >> wasn't very good, nothing personal. >> but dana, is that it? >> well, that was a little raspy, your john boehner. but i think you've captured the sentiment, more or less correctly. and yes, the cbo report shows that the deficit is shrinking. but it is also showing the efforts to shrink the deficit have taken away from growth and the economy. you can't have one of these things without the other. now, i think there's a fallacy in the first question you posed to jared. that is that republicans would be very upset if there were a double-dip recession in a political sense as rush limbaugh and others have stated, they may be in a stronger position if the economy goes back into recession. then the president and his majority party will be less powerful. so they actually have a political incentive. >> hang on a second, dan
for instance, deficits are decreasing. however, all i ever hear from republicans is the president needs to get serious. from speaker john boehner. that's the best impersonation i can give you. >> it's not bad. >> wasn't very good, nothing personal. >> but dana, is that it? >> well, that was a little raspy, your john boehner. but i think you've captured the sentiment, more or less correctly. and yes, the cbo report shows that the deficit is shrinking. but it is also...
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this deficit is a real problem. this is where i depart from paul. who am i to depart from paul? a nobel laureate. >> we'll ask him. >> this is about the best deal we'll get out of the right-winged crazy people in the house. >> because it's balanced and -- >> it doesn't really touch -- there's no better deal progressives are going to get out of this other than going over the cliff. >> i'm so worried about austerity and -- >> europeans did it wrong. we had throw years of recovery relative to europe. if we're ever going to take the hit this is a better time to take t if this were three years ago, i would be arguing right with you. i think we can take a chance. when are we going to get the chance to take these cuts in the pentagon or take a bite out of the deficit? i think it's worth it. >> now twittering dean quester. >> if he would stop blaming someone else other than himself and man up and take responsibility. >> kris hayes, i'm sure your guests will have much more explaining on kicking the can down the road. >> thank you. >>> ousted fox news contributor says he's on a mission fo
this deficit is a real problem. this is where i depart from paul. who am i to depart from paul? a nobel laureate. >> we'll ask him. >> this is about the best deal we'll get out of the right-winged crazy people in the house. >> because it's balanced and -- >> it doesn't really touch -- there's no better deal progressives are going to get out of this other than going over the cliff. >> i'm so worried about austerity and -- >> europeans did it wrong. we had...
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and it's estimated to reduce the deficit by $3.3 trillion. remember, we're trying to hit $4 trillion. so we're getting closer. the plan ends tax loopholes for yachts and for jets. it reduces the corporate meal and entertainment deduction to 25%. you can't write off the whole dinner anymore. it ends fossil fuel subsidies for oil companies that are raking in massive profits. exxonmobil, you know what their profit was? $44 billion in 2012. the last thing they need right now is your tax dollars as subsidy. the balancing act also closes other pointless loopholes the rich take advantage of. we should point out mitt romney ran on a similar tax plan. his former running mate paul ryan should love the balancing act because it reduces the deficit. everyone inside the beltway considers mr. ryan just a very serious person. but here is how paul ryan wants to reduce the deficit, with nothing but cuts. and here is the balanced approach from the progressive caucus. you know, when we need budget advice in the future, i think we should kind of push paul ryan of
and it's estimated to reduce the deficit by $3.3 trillion. remember, we're trying to hit $4 trillion. so we're getting closer. the plan ends tax loopholes for yachts and for jets. it reduces the corporate meal and entertainment deduction to 25%. you can't write off the whole dinner anymore. it ends fossil fuel subsidies for oil companies that are raking in massive profits. exxonmobil, you know what their profit was? $44 billion in 2012. the last thing they need right now is your tax dollars as...
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annual deficit deficit continueo shrink until 2017 when interest in health care costs increase deficits. in the next 10 years the u.s. will add almost $7 trillion to the national debt and totaled $26 trillion by 2023. while the national debt compared to the size of the economy stabilizes over the next decade, climbs much higher in the future. the director says the primary culprit, health care spending. >> we still see substantial growth in federal health care spending over the coming 10 years and beyond. that is importantly because the number of people who will be eligible for medicare will be rising very sharply. >> as the economic forecast, expecting gdp to expand 1.4% this year, 3.4% next year, average 3.6% to four years after that and slowing beyond there. expecting unemployment to average 8% this year and 7.6% next year, marking six straight years above $0.7.5, first time that has happened in 70 years. the recent tax increases and spending cuts on the economy, the office says they will cost one and a quarter percentage point to gdp and one half to 2 million jobs this year though wi
annual deficit deficit continueo shrink until 2017 when interest in health care costs increase deficits. in the next 10 years the u.s. will add almost $7 trillion to the national debt and totaled $26 trillion by 2023. while the national debt compared to the size of the economy stabilizes over the next decade, climbs much higher in the future. the director says the primary culprit, health care spending. >> we still see substantial growth in federal health care spending over the coming 10...
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he wants to do some long-term spending reduction on the de deficit. republicans say don't trust him. i don't think republicans will be swayed by the cbo report. they have what they see as a mandate from voters, cut spending. >> let me bring in congressman john yarmuth. what would you like to see? >> i think some of the spending you mentioned could be very youthful. some of the farm subsidies that are unjustified. i'd like to consider a securities transaction pack, the so called wall street packs that can raise tens of billions of dollars. and we can do some cutting, but in that cbo report that you mentioned, it also said that the kind of austerity program which the sequester would represent would be damaging to the recovery, would hurt gdp, and, of course, that's in line with what most economists believe. i think we've got to be very careful when we just say we've got a cut, without regard to the impact of those cuts, both on the economy and on some very important programs. >> you know what the republicans' answer to that is. they say one of the conce
he wants to do some long-term spending reduction on the de deficit. republicans say don't trust him. i don't think republicans will be swayed by the cbo report. they have what they see as a mandate from voters, cut spending. >> let me bring in congressman john yarmuth. what would you like to see? >> i think some of the spending you mentioned could be very youthful. some of the farm subsidies that are unjustified. i'd like to consider a securities transaction pack, the so called wall...
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you've been worried about the deficit. what do you say to this argument that trying to reduce the deficits in europe has been a disaster? it's slowed growth, slowed tax reeve news and increased the deficit? >> let me just say i am not in favor of reducing the deficit now. the short term i am not in favor of reducing the deficit. but i do think there have to be some longer-term plans that give the financial markets some degree of confidence that we're not just going to blow apart. i think this is something on the longer term which is what bowles-simpson was all about, something which i favored totally. so i think that was a combination of including longer-term control over some of our big expenditures, particularly in health care. and that is something we have to do. i think the president could get some things if, in fact, he addressed some of these longer term issues but he walked away from that and there's no confidence that he really cares about it. >> let's talk about common -- noneconomic things. i would have thought y
you've been worried about the deficit. what do you say to this argument that trying to reduce the deficits in europe has been a disaster? it's slowed growth, slowed tax reeve news and increased the deficit? >> let me just say i am not in favor of reducing the deficit now. the short term i am not in favor of reducing the deficit. but i do think there have to be some longer-term plans that give the financial markets some degree of confidence that we're not just going to blow apart. i think...
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cbo says, it's going to stay there, 78% and it calls the deficit unsustainable and yet this week, you heard the president say, hey, the economy is recovering. does the evidence belie all of that. >> there is no evidence. the president is nice man but when it comes to economics he doesn't know what he is doing. now he is going give on the state of the union and talk about how important it is for congress to pass what she presenting. guess what? congress, don't pass it if it doesn't stimulate the economy. right now we are in rigamortis and until we stimulate the economy, it will continue along the line. these are permanent scars that we won't be able to get rid of for a long time. >> gregg: the president repeatedly promised this. take a listen. >> if you are one of the more 250 million americans who already have health insurance, you will keep your health insurance. this law will make it more secure and more affordable. >> gregg: tell that to 7 million americans who are now not being able to keep their insurance. look, come on, ed, was that promise that never made any sense. it was laug
cbo says, it's going to stay there, 78% and it calls the deficit unsustainable and yet this week, you heard the president say, hey, the economy is recovering. does the evidence belie all of that. >> there is no evidence. the president is nice man but when it comes to economics he doesn't know what he is doing. now he is going give on the state of the union and talk about how important it is for congress to pass what she presenting. guess what? congress, don't pass it if it doesn't...
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under current law the deficit will shrink in 2013. as an estimated $845 billion, the deficit, the first in five years below $1 trillion. >> the cbo projects deficits to decline from $845 billion to year to as low as 430 billion in 2015 but then 978 billion a year by 2023. >> in 2014 or 15 the deficit will come down. there's a tax increase we just passed. that combines to produce a smaller deficit. >> though the president has not submitted his budget, the cbo projects the next ten years u.s. debt will increase $10 trillion from a little more than 16 trillion-dollar now to more than $26 trillion in 2023. >> you can't raise enough tax to say pay for this problem. you won't grow fast enough to get rid of this problem. you ultimately have to deal with spending. >> after 2023, the debt begins to soar. >> after that it's going to grow and reach the trillion and go beyond the trillion. so at no point in the foreseeable future is the deficit going to come down to manageable level. >> noting repeatedly high debts are bad and dangerous as he put
under current law the deficit will shrink in 2013. as an estimated $845 billion, the deficit, the first in five years below $1 trillion. >> the cbo projects deficits to decline from $845 billion to year to as low as 430 billion in 2015 but then 978 billion a year by 2023. >> in 2014 or 15 the deficit will come down. there's a tax increase we just passed. that combines to produce a smaller deficit. >> though the president has not submitted his budget, the cbo projects the next...
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we believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit but americans do not support sacrificing real spending cuts for more tax hikes." >>> efforts by the white house to head off spending cuts come as a new government report predicts the budget deficit will drop below $1 trillion for the first time during obama's presidency. the congressional budget office which assumes that the cuts will go into effect march 1st says the government will run a deficit of $845 billion this year. that's compared to $1.1 trillion short fall. the outlook predicts the improvements will not last. it warns that an aging population will drive up retirement spending and rising interest rates will put the debt at unsustainable level it's current laws remain in place, debt by 2023 will equal 77% of gross domestic product. that is roughly double the 39% average seen over the past 40 years. >>> coming off the republicans' bruising defeat, eric cantor is looking to rebrand his party n a speech at a d.c. think tank, he moved away from his combative tone expressing a need to work on issues with president obama impor
we believe there is a better way to reduce the deficit but americans do not support sacrificing real spending cuts for more tax hikes." >>> efforts by the white house to head off spending cuts come as a new government report predicts the budget deficit will drop below $1 trillion for the first time during obama's presidency. the congressional budget office which assumes that the cuts will go into effect march 1st says the government will run a deficit of $845 billion this year....
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his party, focusing on issues like education and health care and spend less time talking about the deficit. >> really? oh, yes. eric cantor to the rescue. he is ready to save the republican image and put a stop to the electoral college losses, right? of course, this is not the first time eric cantor has tried to save the party. you see, it actually is the fourth attempt that he has had. in 2009, cantor held a pizza party, remember that? with jeb bush and mitt romney by launching the national council for a new america that didn't work. a year later, cantor was back at it. he was one of the young guns ready to take the republican party by storm. >> there is a better way, and a new team is ready to bring america back. eric cantor, kevin mccarthy, paul ryan joined by common-sense conservative candidates from across the country. together, they are ready to make history. together they are the young guns. >> the good old days. in 2011, cantor launched the you cut program. he wanted to get the public to vote on weekly cuts to federal government. another year, another failure. so today cantor launc
his party, focusing on issues like education and health care and spend less time talking about the deficit. >> really? oh, yes. eric cantor to the rescue. he is ready to save the republican image and put a stop to the electoral college losses, right? of course, this is not the first time eric cantor has tried to save the party. you see, it actually is the fourth attempt that he has had. in 2009, cantor held a pizza party, remember that? with jeb bush and mitt romney by launching the...
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i think i'd like to hear jobs, jobs jobs, jobs, not one word about the deficit. that would make my heart go pity pat. not only would that make everybody's head on television explode, it would make me very happy. stephanie: we are told it will be used on using to protect jobs, bring down the deficit -- >> whoa, wait. stephanie: he will once again say this is what the american people voled for right? >> what i'm fairly impressed by is he's getting back on an airplane as soon as this is over and going to try to sell this down in north carolina. people are yelling he is still in the campaign, right he still has people backing him. stephanie: you can't reasonably watch any of those republicans eric cantor was on meet the press. no matter how you spin it, it's like no, you were on the wrong side of the polling of everything the penalty wants to get done. he ran on those issues, won on those issues. it's just -- i don't did eric cantor say anything that made sense to you sunday? >> no, this is what he did. first of all if you're giving a really big speech about how the
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the symbolic vote he detail how he would cut the deficit to avoid the automatic spending cuts next month. >> mr. president, you missed the deadline again. let's see your plan. let's show it to the american people and have the discussion about the proper way to manage down this debt and deficit. >> reporter: without a budget deal on march 1st so-called sequestration will force reductions in military training, cutbacks in operations, and layoffs of civilian pentagon employees plus civilian defense contractors. >> it's an idiotic management nightmare to try to run a complex sophisticated, long-term program when you have short-term, massive cuts. >> reporter: deep cuts also loom in social services. outgoing defense secretary panetta slammed democrats and republicans for their game of chicken. >> let's see how bad it can get in order to have the other party blink. >> reporter: some senate republicans today said push the deadline back seven months. but house speaker john boehner said in effect he will not blink. >> at some point, washington has to deal with its spending problem. i've watched t
the symbolic vote he detail how he would cut the deficit to avoid the automatic spending cuts next month. >> mr. president, you missed the deadline again. let's see your plan. let's show it to the american people and have the discussion about the proper way to manage down this debt and deficit. >> reporter: without a budget deal on march 1st so-called sequestration will force reductions in military training, cutbacks in operations, and layoffs of civilian pentagon employees plus...
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the deficit problem is the problem for later in this decade. the jobs problem is the problem today. and this talk of a contracti contractionary fiscal position. it is hurting the economy. >> he wantive harris? >> in the end, we've got to get our deficit under control while we grow the private sector economy. we can't do it through new taxation. you can't tax your way out of this mess. that's the problem. the president has decided that's the approach he's going to take. the republicans have a different approach. we believe we have to rein in entitlement spending, the budgets up until now. again across the aisle and on the other side, they're unwilling to handle. >> we'll leave it there. thank you. >> let you both get back to work. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> appreciate your time. thanks very much. isn't it nice to know in two weeks you haven't missed anything? >> this sounds familiar. >> 40 minutes before the closing bell sounds. dow down 103 points. >>> google getting downgraded after a record high on friday when we allegedly hit 14,000. why did that happen? and are you
the deficit problem is the problem for later in this decade. the jobs problem is the problem today. and this talk of a contracti contractionary fiscal position. it is hurting the economy. >> he wantive harris? >> in the end, we've got to get our deficit under control while we grow the private sector economy. we can't do it through new taxation. you can't tax your way out of this mess. that's the problem. the president has decided that's the approach he's going to take. the...
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jobs is the thing that will really reduce the deficit. more taxpayers is going to result in the lower deficit than already this year. if we look at the last year we've seen the deficit go down because you've seen a little bit of success in the job market. not enough, but you have seen us reducing that deficit. that's really what the balancing act is all about. i would think that any fair-minded member of congress would want to see us balance and not just ask to solve the deficit crisis by forcing it all on the shoulders of people who defend upon important government programs. >> john: it seems inspiring that you're trying to sneak sanity into the budget debate. i commend you for it. you were there when the president laid out his gun control proposals. >> yes. >> are these campaign-style events the best way for him to drum up support for this issue? >> yes, and the reason why i think so, the american public supports common-sense gun-violence prevention. we support universal background checks closing the gun show loopholes. we support banni
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>> the money supposedly is going to reduce the deficit. but the problem is, the sequestration is indiscriminate. if you let leon panetta do those cuss and figure out where they should come from and did it with a scalpel that would be fine. but i think the defense department can handle this. the president is not going to come up with cuts and programs that he wants if the republicans don't say what they want. whether they want it to be the virgin birth of spending cuts. >> ryan, you and i know that the 95 billion goes back in the private sector. what happens to it then? then it becomes much more lucrative than 85 billion because it's reinvested. where? in private enterprise, correct? >> it doesn't necessarily go back into the private sector. it van issues. >> how does that happen? >> they don't borrow. >> it's not being borrowed. >> but if it's still -- if it's no longer borrowed, and in the private sector where it is functioning under the rules of -- >> sitting in the banks. >> and the program matt sound capitalism. issue three. gop soul s
>> the money supposedly is going to reduce the deficit. but the problem is, the sequestration is indiscriminate. if you let leon panetta do those cuss and figure out where they should come from and did it with a scalpel that would be fine. but i think the defense department can handle this. the president is not going to come up with cuts and programs that he wants if the republicans don't say what they want. whether they want it to be the virgin birth of spending cuts. >> ryan, you...
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[applause] if you look at what is happening here, it is true that the deficit are going to be below $1 trillion for the first time in several years. and it is true that the new revenues raised in spending that you did not do. it is true that the economy is beginning to grow again. but this is almost like the reverse of what we did in 1993. that is, i was prickly well aware if we raise taxes and cut spending, it could have a dragging effect in the economy. but not nearly as much as spending 40% of the budget paying interest on the debt. not nearly as much as having low growth. at nearly as much as having interest rates that were too high. so our gamble was that the explosive the fact of lowering interest rates, with a booming bond market and having more disposable income over a 5 =-10 year period would more than offset putting the hammer down by raising more money and cutting spending. it turned out to be a good gamble, but it made sense. it will make sense here again. but timing is everything. and so, i think he should have a budget that does not defy our arithmetic but also, and doesn
[applause] if you look at what is happening here, it is true that the deficit are going to be below $1 trillion for the first time in several years. and it is true that the new revenues raised in spending that you did not do. it is true that the economy is beginning to grow again. but this is almost like the reverse of what we did in 1993. that is, i was prickly well aware if we raise taxes and cut spending, it could have a dragging effect in the economy. but not nearly as much as spending 40%...
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if we are not out of the deficit that we lost. in terms of the system being skewed, if we are continually supporting a system where jobs go to the already employed and we are really not doing anything to foster the economic recovery that is going to benefit everyone in society, none of these laws and nothing that the national employment law project is advocating for says you have to fill open jobs with unemployed people. what we are saying is that qualified unemployed people should be allowed to compete on terms that are fair. that is good for all of us in an economic recovery. host: baltimore, md., just retired, go ahead. caller: i would like to say one thing before i say my question. i love c-span and i always want to make it through on a phone call and i am glad that i made it through. that being said, and by the way -- go ravens, we won the super bowl. my question is this. i live in baltimore city. the unemployment rate in baltimore city is unbelievable. the problem that you have is that not only are so many people unemployed,
if we are not out of the deficit that we lost. in terms of the system being skewed, if we are continually supporting a system where jobs go to the already employed and we are really not doing anything to foster the economic recovery that is going to benefit everyone in society, none of these laws and nothing that the national employment law project is advocating for says you have to fill open jobs with unemployed people. what we are saying is that qualified unemployed people should be allowed...
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. >> goals in manufacturing, energy, education, national security and the deficit. real achievable plans that will lead to new jobs. >> top republicans including senator mcconnell already critical of the speech. >> i strongly suspect the white house will subject us to yet another campaign blitz. frankly, i could write the scripts myself and will be told the president's hands are tied by the sequester he proposed, signed and refuses to get rid of. >> we learned the president will make a major announcement of afghanistan announcing that 34,000 u.s. troops will return home from the region exactly one year from today. that's about half the troops there now. joining us now, maryland congressman chris van hollen, ranking member of the house budget committee. thank you for joining us. >> great to be with you, tamron. >> first, what are the expectations for the president tonight? >> well, i think as you said the president's going to lay out his plan for xik growth, for job creation but focusing on the fact it is not good enough just to have economic growth for the folks alr
. >> goals in manufacturing, energy, education, national security and the deficit. real achievable plans that will lead to new jobs. >> top republicans including senator mcconnell already critical of the speech. >> i strongly suspect the white house will subject us to yet another campaign blitz. frankly, i could write the scripts myself and will be told the president's hands are tied by the sequester he proposed, signed and refuses to get rid of. >> we learned the...
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. >> i want to listen to something that john boehner said about how we have handled deficits over the years. let's listen to this. >> at some point, washington has to deal with its spending problem. now, i've watched them kick this can down the road 22 years that i've been here. i've had enough of it. it's time to act. >> that is -- i'm trying to think of a word other than lie. kick the can down the road? we had a big tax increase in 1993 with president clinton along with big spending cuts. >> right. >> it was a deficit reduction package that worked. they continued to do more deficit reducing package with newt gingrich on the spending side throughout the decade and we're on our way to a surplus. >> that's right. i've been calling it the undecade, the 1990s has been written out of their record. they would have you believe that it was always the way it was under reagan and then bush. >> why don't they just say, leave off the clinton tax increase, which helped a lot, and just claim they did it for spending cuts? >> because if they do, if they admit that something nice happened in the '90
. >> i want to listen to something that john boehner said about how we have handled deficits over the years. let's listen to this. >> at some point, washington has to deal with its spending problem. now, i've watched them kick this can down the road 22 years that i've been here. i've had enough of it. it's time to act. >> that is -- i'm trying to think of a word other than lie. kick the can down the road? we had a big tax increase in 1993 with president clinton along with big...
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now, at some point we're going to have to begin reducing the deficit. when we do, the economy will be weak. that will make the deficit challenge even greater. it's a negative feedback loop. right now when all these democrats say, look, mr. market is saying go ahead, borrow, we don't square. that is not a really market. that's the echols building. that's one side of washington telling the other side, don't worry, i'm buying all the bonds. now, if you think this kind of ponzi finance is anything to do with capitalism or free markets or anything to do with sustainability, then you've read an economic textbook that didn't even exist in 1995. dagen: david, thank you so much. david stockman, i know it's like facelift. like the first few you get it kind of hides your age, but eventually you're going to look, well, 8 6. connell: hasn't thought of it that way, but as always, you bring up a unique perspective. dagen: what? i'm really 75. connell: well, you look great. the ftc is pressing for new guidelines on the mobile industry. dagen: and if your worried you --
now, at some point we're going to have to begin reducing the deficit. when we do, the economy will be weak. that will make the deficit challenge even greater. it's a negative feedback loop. right now when all these democrats say, look, mr. market is saying go ahead, borrow, we don't square. that is not a really market. that's the echols building. that's one side of washington telling the other side, don't worry, i'm buying all the bonds. now, if you think this kind of ponzi finance is anything...
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deficits. i think we know he's going say we're not going to increase deficits. this won't cost the american people a dime. how do you do big programs without costing anything? doing that either suggests you're going to make serious trade-offs cut somewhere else to spend here or do small symbolic stuff. >> woodruff: the white house is already putting out some advanced text saying that these are things... some of the things he wants to do are not going to cost the taxpayers anything. both of you have mentioned the inaugural address. we hear from the white house that the president is not just talking to the members of congress in the chamber. he's talking to millions of americans who have everything at stake. >> you could say to some degree the audience is the 48% who did not vote for him. in the sense that what he says to them. but really the true sense tonight is the people who are listening are those who support, admire and identify with the president. that's the case with every state of the un
deficits. i think we know he's going say we're not going to increase deficits. this won't cost the american people a dime. how do you do big programs without costing anything? doing that either suggests you're going to make serious trade-offs cut somewhere else to spend here or do small symbolic stuff. >> woodruff: the white house is already putting out some advanced text saying that these are things... some of the things he wants to do are not going to cost the taxpayers anything. both...